What did the American bishops actually do on the whole memorial acclamationh the BCL inconsistently retained several other ICEL originals on their proposed list.) The entire list had to be voted up or down, not one item at a time.
Some bishops, including Egan, argued for retaining this popular “Christ has died” ICEL text.
In the end, Bishop DiMarzio moved that the whole matter of alternative texts for the US be tabled until after the bishops have a chance to see/discuss/approve the translation of the whole Missal.
The VOICE vote on Di Marzio’s motion to send this entire project back to committee until after we have an English translation was ruled “inconclusive”. But the STANDING vote was overwhelming: 160 (yes) 70 (no).
So the whole business is tabled, for now.
Egan’s comment, then, could be taken one of two ways: either he would rather lay it over and do the “one fell swoop,” or he’s shilling for ICEL, which he certainly should NOT be doing.
What has always annoyed me about this Memorial Acclamation is that its use of third person is “talking past” Jesus in the Holy Eucharist. The others don’t.
Now they dare allow known perversions to remain in the Mass?
If what the prayers say doesn’t matter, then why does it matter that we even know what they are? Familiarity? If familiarity is so necessary in this “time of uncertainty”, then was it not even more unwise for his Eminence to have so recently brought wasting desolation to the venerable churches of New York?
We are told to ask our Father in Heaven for what we need here on earth. As the Mass is the greatest prayer and work of our lives, it is surely not too trifling a matter to ask the Lord to allow a genuine renewal of sacred liturgy, music and architecture in His Church.
Mysterium fidei…
Arrrgghhhh
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Cardinal Edward Egan, archbishop of New York, pointed out that other lines are not well translated and told his brethren that American Catholics should be allowed to settle into familiar prayers during a time of uncertainty in the church.
What I think is funny is that Cardinal Egan is arguing from tradition here. “We’ve been doing it this way for 30 whole years, so we shouldn’t just change the Mass on a whim”.
So I guess changing the Mass overnight after over 1,000 years is okay, but after 30 years is not?
(I’m not a Latin Mass guy myself, but I just think this argument of Egan’s is hypocritical since the Church changed the Mass without regard to people’s feelings in the 1970’s and I doubt Egan thinks that was a bad thing).
God bless your optimism Cardinal Egan, but American Catholics long ago decided that everything is up for grabs.
In Spanish, the acclamation goes:
“Anunciamos tu muerte, proclamamos tu resurreccimment>
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2005-06-22 01:11:27
Joe,
Doesn’t the Salvatorian Center use the Eastern-rite formula: “Christ is risen from the dead, and by his death he has trampled upon death and has given life to those who are in the tomb.”
We don’t even have the translation from Rome and already they’re trying to crap it up….
What a joke these bumblers are.