I’m a little surprised by this. The Boston archdiocese has changed its mind. Its not going to close St. James Church in Stoughton; instead, they’re merging with Our Lady of the Rosary Church and the parishioners are being given a choice of which building to worship in.
By the way the article is wrong. The closing of St. Catherine of Siena in Charlestown has not been “abandoned.” Rather than being suppressed outright, it is instead being merged with two other parishes. In the same way, the article is wrong about the Stoughton situation. The members of the two parishes are not choosing which church will stay open and which will close. Rather they are being given input into their preferred future home. And even then, the final decision is up to the archbishop.
Thank you very much, Joanne. I will leave it to others to decide whether you are correct in your estimation (Melanie?
), but I appreciate you saying it.
Thank heavens my church is nothing like that. I find it distressing enough participating in the Sign of Peace (never liked it, never will). And as much as I’d like to change our choirs’ lamentable repetition of Carey Landry’s Greatest Hits, my wife can’t do anything about it, as the choir is too old and too set in their ways. The fact that they refuse to set aside a night to rehearse and only go through the songs just before Mass is part of my frustration with them and the music.
I like the FS&CSS;, Dom. If out-of-towners are invited, I’ve got a few good Opus X and Padron Anniversarios in my humidor.
Thank heavens my church is nothing like that. I find it distressing enough participating in the Sign of Peace (never liked it, never will). And as much as I’d like to change our choirs’ lamentable repetition of Carey Landry’s Greatest Hits, my wife can’t do anything about it, as the choir is too old and too set in their ways. The fact that they refuse to set aside a night to rehearse and only go through the songs just before Mass is part of my frustration with them and the music.
I like the FS&CSS;, Dom. If out-of-towners are invited, I’ve got a few good Opus X and Padron Anniversarios in my humidor.
The Archbishop is not handling this well at all. First the letter with all itthor_IP>
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Thank you very much, Joanne. I will leave it to others to decide whether you are correct in your estimation (Melanie? 
), but I appreciate you saying it.
This guy just told my story. I was at a church over the weekend In Cleveland, OH where they held hands during the Our Father and hugged at the Kiss of Peace. I did not participate in these hippie rituals.
This guy just told my story. I was at a church over the weekend In Cleveland, OH where they held hands during the Our Father and hugged at the Kiss of Peace. I did not participate in these hippie rituals.
I don’t share the author’s optimism. A lot of these changes are so entrenched and have gone on for so long that they are now irretractible. Even today the liturgical madness goes on unhindered.
I find most Catholic parishes all use the same lame folk music (I especially find the “we are God” songs annoying, eg. Here I am Lord) and who doesn’t find those felt banners that say “rejoice” ascetically pleasing?
Like John Zmirak said, they did not change the mass to make it more appealing to protestants, they changed it to make it more appealing to homosexuals.
I don’t share the author’s optimism. A lot of these changes are so entrenched and have gone on for so long that they are now irretractible. Even today the liturgical madness goes on unhindered.
I find most Catholic parishes all use the same lame folk music (I especially find the “we are God” songs annoying, eg. Here I am Lord) and who doesn’t find those felt banners that say “rejoice” ascetically pleasing?
Like John Zmirak said, they did not change the mass to make it more appealing to protestants, they changed it to make it more appealing to homosexuals.
..hippie rituals…heh. I laughed out loud. Yup, that’s what they are—inserted right in the middle of Mass where they don’t belong.
..hippie rituals…heh. I laughed out loud. Yup, that’s what they are—inserted right in the middle of Mass where they don’t belong.
My 17 year old son laughed out loud at Mass when the choir director used the keyboards. I sent him a stern look but began laughing myself. Later he said the tune sounded like something from the Little Mermaid. Disney does the Mass.
I have a male philosophy professor friend who complained to the pastor about the music. This was effective.
Men have got to speak up. They simply have to get their “voice” back. (I know, that sounds SO NEW AGE;)
My 17 year old son laughed out loud at Mass when the choir director used the keyboards. I sent him a stern look but began laughing myself. Later he said the tune sounded like something from the Little Mermaid. Disney does the Mass.
I have a male philosophy professor friend who complained to the pastor about the music. This was effective.
Men have got to speak up. They simply have to get their “voice” back. (I know, that sounds SO NEW AGE;)
Good for your 17 year old son—a bit of honesty is a good thing. Catholics need not only to regain their music, but also their sense of humor. Our music here is funny too.
My favorite Novus Ordo hymn is this one. Hum along now……..
1st verse:
Here I am Lord, Is it I Lord, I have heard You calling in the Night, I will go, Lord, if You lead me, I will hold Your people in my heart.
2nd verse:
Here’s the story of a lovely lady,
Who was bringing up three very lovely girls.
All of them had hair of gold, like their mother,
The youngest one in curls.
If that ain’t RELEVANT, I don’t know what is. =)
Good for your 17 year old son—a bit of honesty is a good thing. Catholics need not only to regain their music, but also their sense of humor. Our music here is funny too.
My favorite Novus Ordo hymn is this one. Hum along now……..
1st verse:
Here I am Lord, Is it I Lord, I have heard You calling in the Night, I will go, Lord, if You lead me, I will hold Your people in my heart.
2nd verse:
Here’s the story of a lovely lady,
Who was bringing up three very lovely girls.
All of them had hair of gold, like their mother,
The youngest one in curls.
If that ain’t RELEVANT, I don’t know what is. =)
Men have got to speak up. They simply have to get their pper%26ampcamp%3D2025%26amplink_code%3Dxm2″>this book (Wild at Heart) may help. It is written by a Protestant but there is much of value to be had from it. I recently read it and plan to read it again. Should be required reading for all, that is, until a Catholic author comes along with something better (e.g., Our Lady is noticeably missing from his equation; nevertheless, one should be able to recognize that and put Her where She belongs).
Bryan, Funny you mentioned that book. My 17 yo son read it in his Catholic Lifeteen group. At first I wasn’t too happy that the author was Protestant, but I read it and liked it very much. His basic tenet was clear: that men have “something” that is lovely (ok feminine word!) and deep that God has given them, ie: a desire to lead and love and dream and build and it is often smothered in our culture where men have been effeminized and weakened. I agree, he’s missing our dear Mother who is greatly loved by Jesus and is the ultimate model of feminine love. I wish all Christians would come to understand and know her. I think men would feel a security in knowing that she loves them and would, in a chivalrous manner, serve and develop a sense of pride in being manly as a result.
His basic tenet was clear: that men have ld be elements that appeal to him as well.
I really ought to think about getting the Frassati Scotch & Cigar Society off the ground finally.
(* Dirty Harry was a movie character played by Clint Eastwood, a typical tough-guy, no-nonsense cop.)
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Thanks for the Doug Giles link. He is right on.
Your society sounds like a good and honorable alternative to what sometimes passes for guy “entertainment.” It’s hard to be a good Catholic, especially as a young adult, and it’s probably even more difficult for men than women. There’s little in the culture that encourages guys to be adult men – thanks again, sexual revolution – but it seems to me at least, Dom, that you have achieved “authentic manliness” (to use RC’s phrase) anyways. Hope I am not being too presumptuous or personal in saying that about you, but after a couple of experiences I’ve had recently, you are doing my heart good!
Best of luck getting your society off the ground!
Regards,
Joanne