Hilary? Bring her on

Hilary? Bring her on

I don’t understand it. The electorate resoundingly rejected the same, old liberal re-treads; the same, old liberal platform, sweeping Republicans to even greater control over Congress and granting them control of the White House for four more years. And what is the Democrat Party’s response?

They’re starting to tout Hilary Clinton as their answer in 2008. Huh?

Is there a more polarizing figure in politics today? Do you want to see even higher turnout of voters for Republicans? Is there another person more symbolic of the same failed liberal platform? I’m drooling at the thought of Hilary as the nominee in 2008. The Republicans could put up the president’s dog as her opponent and Hilary would lose.

In addition, rather than try to figure out why the majority of Americans don’t like what the Democrats are offering, instead they’re vilifying them as stupid and ignorant and not worthy of the liberals’ continued presence among them. At the rate the Dems are spiraling in, they’re going to be doomed to irrelevance for at least another generation.

  • A report from Specter’s web site denies that he made any such warnings to President Bush.  Check it out (this was reported yesterday on Drudge).  I wonder what happened—why such a thing would have been reported about him?

  • Bryan Jerabek, I watched and heard him say this in a TV coverage of his press conference.


  • Done. Sent an EMail to Frist reminding him of why we elected President Bush and that we don’t need a ‘Republican’ chairman who seeks to block the President’s appointees.

  • I agree with you about Hillary. I wrote back on Dec. 8: “Like David Frum (in a ‘diary’ entry I can’t find now) the other day, I think Hillary has no intention whatever of running for president next year [that is, 2004]: she wants the Democratic candidate to get clobbered, and the Democrats to lose even more seats in the Congress, so she can ‘save’ the party in 2008. (If they actually let her try to do that, they’ll be conveniently forgetting or ignoring that the party’s race towards oblivion accelerated dramatically with the introduction of the Clintons to the White House.) Hillary does not want to run against a sitting president whom she’ll actually have to give a good fight.” And on Feb. 14: “Hillary Clinton is not going to run for the presidency this year [2004]. The Democratic candidates are not in disarray, or, at any rate, are no more in disarray than candidates usually are at this stage of a presidential election. (They’re headed for disaster, but they’re not in disarray.) If they were, and if she did, so much the better: she would get clobbered. As many Democrats hate her as love her. (Good heavens, even Susan Estrich .91.139.135
    2004-11-06 09:37:20
    2004-11-06 13:37:20
    “Cudos to Ray Flynn who was on EWTN last nite. He’s like Moses leading Catholics out of the Dem party..sign me up, Ray. They left me.”

    Amen. Ray Flynn is a great man.

  • Bryan Jerabek, I watched and heard him say this in a TV coverage of his press conference.

    Thanks.  You can call me “Bryan”.  I just read any article on Yahoo News that indicates that the comments on Specter’s web site are “backtracking” on his part.  I guess he got quite a backlash from his remarks earlier this week.  So, that explains the apparent contradictions in coverage.

  • I think that when Specter was running in the republican primary in Pennsylvania agains a pro-life opponent,  President Bush went in and campaigned for Specter.

  • Ray was very good on EWTN (as was Kate O’Beirne) but I can’t help but get this feeling that Ray is dying to be more relevant than he is… I think he really misses being on the national stage (notice how he nominated himself as the VP nominee in 2008 – he laughed, but he probably wasn’t kidding). However, he is a gutsy and faithful guy for being so public in his defense of life which is an anathema to his party affiliation.

    Hillery’ll run to the right… she’s been quiet but pretty supportive of Iraq. Imagine her on the ticket w/ Obama – who is wildly popular apparently.

  • Colleen is exactly right.  Hillary will have 4 years to remake herself, and she will.  She actually turned herself into a hawk after 9/11, who would have thought that 10 years ago?  She’ll quietly morph to fit the profile she thinks is needed to get elected, ie, toward the center, even right.  Her true base will support her no matter what, and she’ll try to dupe the center and right into thinking she’s moderate.  And then the day after she’s elected, she’ll go back to the positions her base knows she really had. 

    I always found it very interested that she went by “Hillary Clinton” until just days after the 1992 election, then she started using the Rodham.  A small metaphor of what to expect.l

    Make no mistake, the Dems have no one else.  It’s all about Hillary in ‘08.

  • Colleen—

    Obama is “wildly popular” because he is a virtual unknown.  He’s charming, good-looking, and is from a “minority” group.  But the Senate of the United States is not Springfield, Illinois.  He is very pro-abortion, although that could be ameliorated for voter perceptions.  Illinois, with its legendary corruption, also is somewhat of an albatross.  The venerable and likeable Senator Paul Simon never made it past the Democratic Party primaries.
    And two US Senators from highly liberal states, like Illinois and New York, isn’t a campaign manager’s dream.
    Hillary can only move so far to the center right before she starts to turn off her base.  Let’s see what she does in the next two years.  God willing, we can return here then for an update.

  • Alfredo, you are correct!  Bush/Rove got Santorum to join Bush in Philly to endorse Specter.  They probably did this to gain PA for Bush.  I did not work.  Specter barely won reelection and Bush lost PA.  Toomey would have beat Specter in the primary if Bush had not intervened.  Now Bush has to live with the consequences of his mistake.

  • Renatus is exactly right.

    First,  I have called, faxed and emailed Sen. Frist.  I have forwarded emails to encourage others to do so.  I even posted the correct phone number for Frist above.

    But we cleaning up after the mess Bush made.

    Bush endorsed a pro-abortion candidate like Specter in the Republican primary when there was a very pro-life challenger, Rep. Pat Toomey.  Bush should have stayed silent, at the very least.  I would like to know why everyone is suddenly so shocked about Specter.  Why is everyone so surprised that Specter is in line for the judiciary chair?  He was no friend of life or even the Republican party for a long time.

    Also, Bush did not actively support very pro-life John Thune in South Dakota.  Bush did not campaign once for Thune, and Thune barely won.  Thune was going up against the leader of the abortionists in the senate. Where was Bush?  Defeating Daschle will have a bigger impact on judicial nominees than which republican is the judiciay chair. 

    (What is the biggest impact of defeating Daschle?  Democratic senators from red states see what happens when they are simply obstructionist.  Dem senators will now be willing to work with the majority, unless they are from very safe blue states.)

    I was angry that Bush supported Specter long before this happened.  There must have been political calculations to back Specter, as Renatus sayas, and not overtly support Thune.  Bush made his bed, and now we may have to sleep in it.

    – Jim C.

  • Heck, Ray nominated himself for VP on a ticket with Jeb Bush on EWTN! You gotta love the chutzpah…. Jeb is a tantalizing candidate: governor, a Bush, Roman Catholic, pro-life, hispanic wifey, Southerner without the funny accent…the demographics are just tantalizing.

    Besides, they say he’s the “smart one.”

    Obama is a catastrophe waiting to happen,  err… I mean he’d be a fine Dem nominee.

  • Well, according to Rick Perlstein (of the Village Voice) writing in the Boston Globe, the problem for the Dems is Wal-Mart! And why haven’t the Dems targeted Wal-Mart? Because:

    “Hillary Clinton is a former member of the board of directors of Wal-Mart. She should not be able to get within spitting distance of a Democratic presidential nomination until she explains, if not apologizes for, her service on it.”

    There you have it. She’s toast…!

  • Memories are short.  The MSM will bury her history of petty corruption and abuse of her husband’s office.  There will be no Swift Boat Vets organization to keep the story alive.  HRC is behaving herself.  Remember that the left still controls the MSM and can deliver close states like PA, MO, MI, and WI through vote fraud.

    There is every reason to believe that she will be a formidable competitor in 08.

    I just hope Karl Rove is alert to the need to groom a successor to GWB.

  • The message Bush and Frist must get is that Specter cannot be allowed to obstruct pro-life judicial nominees.  How they get the job done is up to them.  It’s obvious that someone has already gotten a powerful message to Specter.

  • Charles, you say correctly that “How they get the job done is up to them.”  But I suggest that it is also up to “us.”  If we who worked so hard for Bush’s election now sit back and do nothing – he and we will live with the consequences of a Specter Judiciary Chairmanship.  That is a spectre I care not to see!  Renatus

  • I agree with those who state that Hildebeeste is already running to the right, and hard.  Expect that to continue for a while.

    It is important to recall that Hildebeeste’s campaign assistance fund has disbursed $millions, LOTSA $millions, to Democrats around the country.  They owe her, and they know it.

    And there’s Bill, the only Democrat elected to the Presidency since 1980…

    The bigger problem:  Rudy (pro-abort) Giuliani is running, hard, for the Pubbie nomination.  He’s a big-gummint, anti-gun, CINO.

    And to date there are absolutely ZERO other possibles.

  • Dunno ninenot, word on the street here in Massachusetts is that Mitt Romney, Repub governor will be headed to Washington shortly. He’s a conservative Mormon who is well spoken and intelligent and who tried to stop the gay marriage bit here last winter. Not too well known yet outside of his successful running of the Olympic games in Utah. No coattails here though… no repubs elected this campagn.

    Rudy… not acceptible but people really like him for 9/11. Maybe vice p?

    Jeb… would drive the dems mad… imagine all the dynasty talk?